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So Much for Alabama or Duke Beating Pro Teams

Sunday, January 27th, 2019

by Gus Griffin

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While I was away, two things happened that hopefully finally put to rest a narrative that never had any credence to begin with: the utterly ridiculous notion that a great college football or basketball team could beat the worst pro teams.

Clemson took the big bad Alabama Crimson Tide to the woodshed.

An unranked Syracuse team went on the road into Cameron Indoor to beat Duke.

This is not to take anything away from Alabama or Duke. The high-level performance of both programs is the gold standard for greatness….at the college level. Leave what is already great alone and stop trying to make it something that it fundamentally is not.

I confess that this is a fun bar room discussion. However, you will have to have been in the bar too long if you actually believe a team of college athletes, even the most talented, at 18-22 years of age, are going to beat a team of GROWN ASS MEN, who play the game for a living.

2001 Miami Hurricanes

2001 Miami Hurricanes

Nevertheless, for entertainment purposes only, let us go with the bar room vibe for a minute. The 2001 Miami Hurricanes is the greatest college football team of my lifetime. Consider their depth at running back alone: Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, and Frank Gore. Other future NFL stars included Johnathan Vilma, DJ Williams (his father and uncle were teammates of mine), Ed Reed, Vince Wilfork, Bryant McKinnie, Jeremy Shockey, and Kellen Winslow Jr. So, with that talent, how can I be so sure that it would not have stood a chance against the Carolina Panthers or Detroit Lions, who won a combined three games between them that year? Two words: Ken Dorsey. He was their QB and very good at the COLLEGE LEVEL. However, he was a total dud at the pro level. In other words, he could not beat anyone once he did become a pro. Why on Earth would you believe that he could beat pro teams while he was still in college?

On even the greatest and most talent-rich college team, maybe a 3rd of the starters become NFL players of any note. Simply put, most college starters, even at the highest level, simply are not good enough to play professionally. But you believe that they would beat the pros?

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Let us consider basketball. The gold standard historically is without question the Lew Alcindor (Kareem Abdul Jabbar) era UCLA Bruins. He was there from 1966-69 and I am positive that we will never see another team dominate college basketball as it did. The worst team in the NBA during the 1968-69 season was the Phoenix Suns, winning only 16 games. Yet that team had seven players average double-figures, led by a future Hall of Famer named Gail Goodrich. UCLA would not have stood a chance. Jabbar was going to be Jabbar. Pros could not have stopped him as a freshman. However, they would not beat pro teams.

The only exception to this rule…and it would only be for one game, would be baseball. A college baseball team with a young stud like Roger Clemons from Texas or Sandy Koufax out of Cincinnati, on the rare days he had his control at that stage of his development, could shut down a professional batting lineup. However, no college team will have more than one.

I guess what baffles me most of all is why do we even care? Why this obsession with forcing apples to compete with oranges? Can’t we just appreciate the greatness of Serena Williams and the Lady UConn Huskies basketball team without asking could they beat men?

Greatness is too rare to be subjected to steroid-laced hypotheticals for our unquenchable amusement.  Alabama is the the greatest college football dynasty ever. Duke has been the most high performing college basketball program for 30 years. That is good enough for me.

 

Gus Griffin, for War Room Sports

BBWAA? Who Needs The Hall Of FAME!

Friday, January 11th, 2013

by LeRoy McConnell III

 

 

 

 

The most anticipated day in the Baseball Writers’ Association of America (BBWAA) has finally come and gone and yes of course they have spoken loudly with their pens selecting who they think is worthy of getting into their precious Baseball Hall of Fame.  This year baseball has taken a closer interest in who is voted in because of the elite and polarizing names displayed on this year’s ballot; and yes this is the only time these so-called sportswriters finally get to stick it to the likes of Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens while remaining anonymous.Well if I were a betting man, I would say that both Bonds and Clemens are not surrounded by friends and family today, waiting for that phone call from the BBWAA telling them about their induction into the Hall.  It AIN’T happening today.  No one is getting in.  The hall of fame voters have made their decision to select no one into their exclusive fraternity all because of P.E.D.s.  Now we get to listen to BBWAA take center stage today, explaining their actions, like we give a crap on why the likes of Curt Schilling, Mike Piazza, or Jeff Bagwell were not worthy enough to enter the Hall this year.  I’m sure as years will pass, their stats will improve tremendously and it will allow these players to squeeze into the Hall with the minimum 75% they need to make it.  When you decide to keep the all-time hits leader out, the all-time home run king who has 7 MVP awards out, and the 7-time Cy Young award-winning pitcher out, then your reasoning is pointless.

Speaking of Pete Rose, the best advice he could give Bonds and Clemens is to hope they never get inducted!  Hall of Fame!  Who Needs the Hall Of Fame!  For over twenty years, baseball has kept Pete Rose out of the Hall of Fame for admitting to gambling.  As much as Rose belongs in the Hall, the attention he receives is far greater than any member in Cooperstown.  The same attention will be for both Barry and Roger.  I mean lets face it, all three men would forever be linked together as the greatest players not to be enshrined.  When was the last time you heard the names of George Brett, Willie Mays, Sandy Koufax, Johnny Bench, and Hank Aaron?  No one is talking about them.  We have been talking about Pete Rose’s fate for two decades now.  If you are Barry Bonds and Roger Clemens, you want to be the topic of conversation.  What is the old saying?; any positive or negative news is good news.  You both have demanded the spotlight in your playing days, and both of you will continue being the center of the baseball world for many years to come.  Don’t get me wrong, the Hall is a special place; but for you two, if you really want to go, buy a ticket.  I’m sure you will get a few laughs when you see some of your own artifacts inside the museum.  Look at the bright side,  you made mega bucks playing a little boy’s game and you will never have to pay back a single dollar for your transgressions!  Your records don’t have asterisks beside your name so take it with a grain of salt and accept the deal you made with the devil.

Someone please tell me what is the big deal about the Hall if you are not putting in the best players?  It’s a museum where the best of the best show up once a year, wearing their golden jackets, honoring the neophytes to the frat house.  Each new member receives a plaque and gives a speech, talking about the good old days.  Why would anyone be interested in this year’s Hall of Fame class that has selected no new members?    If the agenda in 2013 was to punish the likes of Craig Biggio, Curt Schilling, Mike Piazza, Fred McGriff, Jack Morris, and Tim Raines, you have done just that.  I can only imagine what Cooperstown will look and sound like this summer (CRICKETS….LOUD CRICKETS!)
I have a family member that said baseball 20 years from now will be competing with the NHL for survival.  Good job BBWAA, you have had your day now go away.
LeRoy McConnell III of A Fan’s Point of View, for War Room Sports

Clemens & Bonds: Let My People Go…Into The Hall of Fame

Tuesday, July 19th, 2011

by Jimmy Williams

Bonds & Clemens

Although the trial of Roger Clemens ended in a mistrial, (as of now it is unclear whether or not they will retry him) no one believes he DIDN’T use steroids.  This puts his chances of going into the Hall of Fame in jeopardy, even though his numbers clearly make him a first-ballot Hall of Famer.

Growing up as a huge baseball fan, there were many great players that put up crazy numbers, but the best pitcher of my generation was clearly William Roger Clemens, and the best player was without a doubt, Barry Lamar Bonds.  Now both of these athletes may never get the honor of going into the Baseball Hall of Fame because of their connection to steroids.  To me this is unfathomable.  I believe all of the great players and products of my era should be honored.  Michael Jordan, Magic Johnson, Nike ‘95’ Air Max, Reversible Nautica Jackets, Issey Miyake Cologne, The “Illmatic” Album, Voltron Cartoons…you get the point.

I don’t know whether or not they will ever make it into the Hall of Fame, but I hope the Baseball Writers Association of America does not wait until they are damn-near ineligible to put them in the HOF.  That would be equivalent to the writers of “Who’s The Boss” waiting until the last season of the show to make Tony and Angela hook up.

The steroid era has forever changed baseball.  Any time anyone puts up any power numbers, people automatically start with the steroid talk.  It’s sad what has happened to the game but what is more sad is how there is a cloud of suspicion over most of the great players of my era.

Jimmy Williams 

Love and Basketball (and Track Too)

Wednesday, November 10th, 2010

2000 Olympic Games

I would like to shed some light on the disgraced former track star and Olympic Gold medalist Marion

Press Conference after Guilty Plea

Jones. As we all may remember, Marion Jones won 5 Medals in the 2000 Sydney, Australia Olympics and became known as the fastest woman on the planet. After her ex husband, track star CJ Hunter and her ex boyfriend and father of her son track star Tim Montgomery were tied to performance enhancing drug use while they were with Jones and her ties to Victor Conte and BALCO, all signs pointed to her being guilty of steroid use. Recently, Marion Jones has been in the news for serving 6 months in prison from March 2008 to September 2008 for lying to a federal grand jury about her steroid use and for pleading guilty to a check fraud scandal with the aforementioned Tim Montgomery. In 2007, she married sprinter and Olympic medalist Obadale Thompson who is from Barbados and they have two children together.

What many people may not know is that Marion Jones once scored 48 points in a high school basketball game while growing up in Southern California and led the University of North Carolina to the 1994 NCAA Championship as a starting freshman Point Guard.

UNC Women's basketball

She had to make the decision between track and basketball and eventually decided to pursue track full-time and graduated from UNC in 1997. While a professional track star she was even drafted by the Phoenix Mercury of the WNBA in 2003. After being banned from Olympic competition and having the majority of her medals taken away, she decided to try her hand at basketball again at the ripe age of 34 this past year. She played for the Tulsa Shock this season and averaged 3pts and 2rebs in 9 minutes a game shooting 52% from the field. In the last 3 games of the season she averaged 11pts, 6 rebs, and 2 stls while playing 22 minutes a game and shooting 57% from the field. With increased playing time is it possible we could see Marion Jones playing in a WNBA all star game one day?

Press Conference with Tulsa Shock

During the WNBA offseason Marion Jones has been on a Book Tour for her new book “On the Right Track” and has been conducting interviews. Famous director John Singleton recently did a documentary on Jones titled “Press Pause” detailing the journey of Marion Jones’ rise to stardom and recent legal troubles. In regards to Marion Jones being a black female who has served time for her involvement with steroids and lying about it while no one else has served time. Singleton stated:

“Come on now, it’s just common sense — nothing’s going to happen to any of those guys. Those players will not see the inside of a jail cell. They don’t want to open up a can of worms – be it the IOC, NFL or MLB, be it what’s legal or not legal — going back over the last 30 years. They’re only going to go so far with those people and then they’ll let it taper off.”

One excerpt from the book details how Marion Jones spent 23 hours a day in solitary confinement with no TV or computer for 48 days for defending herself against her cell mate, who allegedly attacked her.

While the general public may have written off Marion Jones and label her as a failure, a cheat, a miscreant, or disgrace to her country I look forward to her redeeming herself on the basketball court these next few years and becoming an ambassador of what not to do while speaking around the country.

Marion Jones with the Tulsa Shock of the WNBA

Aquil “Quil” Bayyan of The War Room, For War Room Sports